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July 18, 2004

What the Emerging Church Needs, pt. 1

EmergeThe title of this post needs a bit of an explanation…

I don’t consider myself an expert on the Emerging Church (EC), and I hesitate in even putting my observations and thoughts together for the purpose of posing questions or raising objections -- much less to be offering suggestions to EC leaders for improvement. And yet I feel compelled to do so – not as some typical modern, evangelical pastor, who stands on the sidelines of this movement (as so many do) in order to criticize it – but as someone who sees within the EC unparalleled potential for reform and renewal. I speak as one who has embraced the EC, invested much time and resources into the EC, and is personally involved in a local EC community.

That said, I see the Emerging Church at a critical crossroads. The desire to “do church differently”, or better yet to “be church” in a different way has led to far too much emphasis on ecclesiology (i.e. how we “are” the church) instead of theology. In fact, I was tempted to say we EC’ers have generally focused on orthopraxy to the exclusion of orthodoxy, but it’s impossible to practice one’s theology when that theology hasn’t even been clearly outlined or articulated yet. A recent post by Anna Aven has done an excellent job of drawing attention to this sort of thing. You’ll want to read it.

And so, I offer the following (general) observations concerning the Emerging Church, along with what I hope will be some helpful suggestions:


A preoccupation with image over substance.
People are getting sick and tired of hearing about “candles, coffee, and conversation.” If that’s the best the EC can muster, it’s doomed. Now, I know that there are many EC communities that claim to be about much, much more than candles and stuff – yet for all the time and energy that goes into the “ambiance”, the “alt.worship”, and the “multi-sensory” layering – why aren’t we seeing scores of people being transformed into fully-devoted-followers-of-Christ? Why aren’t the majority of EC communities independently “viable”, either financially or in the reproduction of believers and leaders? And why aren’t more EC communities known for the reliable way they’re caring for the poor and making disciples? I suggest that those of us involved with the EC begin giving primary attention to our orthodoxy first, our orthopraxy second, and then our “externals” (e.g. ambiance). We need to put “who we are” far ahead of “what we do” and “how we do it.”

An assumption that “different” = “better.”
The EC runs the risk of repeating the same error the Enlightenment-influenced Modern Church made of throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It has taken us the better part of 500 years to admit that Protestantism (and then even more, Evangelicalism) divorced itself from some of our more ancient and valuable expressions of faith, probably due to a Roman-Catholic phobia. Many EC’ers today are divorcing themselves from anything that smacks of institutionalized Christianity. And it’s the “anything” part that most concerns me. Sure, there have been abuses and problems within the modern Church (I speak here as an Evangelical). The need for reform is undeniable. But is seems as if many EC’ers are willing to embrace change at any cost, convinced that anything that is believed or practiced “differently” than the Institutionalized Church (IC) must be better. This is a grave error, and even betrays the “both-and” principle so commonly associated within postmodernity. If EC’ers think that the modern Church hasn’t accomplished ANYTHING for the Kingdom, ANYTHING of value, then they’re probably demon-possessed! (j/k) Now, I suppose I could rant on and on about this one, but I honestly believe that Robert Webber is correct in asserting that Church’s path into the future runs through the past. The Christian faith is meant to be an ancient-future faith. The Jerusalem Church embraced this paradox in the first century, and we must embrace it anew in the twenty-first century. The other nuance of the “different=better” phenomenon which bothers me, is how it plays right into the commodification of our faith – new expressions of church become just one more “flavor” in people’s smorgasbord of church-choices -- one more way to satisfy our insatiable thirst for the new and not-yet-experienced, catering to our desire to be entertained and kept from becoming bored. The EC simply cannot afford to fall into this trap. If we are designing our gatherings simply in order to hold people’s attention, we will end up consumed with doing nothing more than just that. “Different” does not necessarily mean “better”, and we must be willing to accept, embrace, and incorporate into our emerging communities of faith, some of the lessons learned by our modern predecessors.

There are a number of other observations and suggestions I have for the Emerging Church, but I’m saving those for future posts. I certainly don't want to get into the "rant-only" mode -- I'll try to point out some of the EC's strengths, and offer some related suggestions there as well. That said, I know that I’m not the only one beginning to question the EC in one way or another (go here or here , here, or here). The fact that a growing number of EC leaders are doing just that is encouraging. It shows that the movement (and I realize that some are doubting whether or not it even qualifies as a “movement”) is growing, maturing.

If you’ve encountered any thoughtful reflection, self-critique, or evaluation by Emerging Church leaders and thinkers, I’d love to hear about it. Of course, you can also feel free to agree or disagree with what I’m writing about here.

We need to learn – not only from the mistakes of others, but from our own mistakes. This is a commitment which all of us connected to the Emerging Church need to make.

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great post DP. thanks.

This is why I consider you a leader, Chris. You have an ability to take what many of us are feeling, put it into good words, and communicate it in redemptive way.

I'll be blogging more on this topic myself in the near future...it's to heavy on my heart right now to come out in a constructive way.

Post-emergently yours,

Daniel

I'm a pastor who hasn't 'come out' yet. I don't know what Emerging Church means - it seems to mean as many things to all people as 'postmodern' does - and my big worry about it is that far from enculturating the Gospel it is moping and fawning on and aping the culture. Sure, there are good things out there, great things being achieved and discovered. But for some people, isn't it possible that what they want is Jesus without the Church? All the fun and ecstasy, without the trouble and hard work of having to deal with real other disciples and real people? Like wanting sex without the hard work of commitment, and so many other contemporary wrong turnings.
I guess what I wish and pray for, is that some of the excitement and energy of EC could be turned to trying to find Jesus IN the Church. He's in there somewhere, I'm sure.
Or, what am I saying? 'Cause I struggle so much with this stuff myself, that what I want even more is for the Church that hasn't emerged to be truly liberated. Maybe I need to find out more about EC myself ...

Chris, great post! I think that if the EC continues on the path it's been on as of now, that it will self-destruct within a short period of time (short meaning a couple of years, but still short on the grand time scale). And if it doesn't self-destruct but continues on this same path... then I seriously worry about the future of Christendom. And yes, I'm going to get around to saying that on my blog ;-)

From what I have seen on emerging blogs (which may or may not be a misguided perspective), it seems that many emerging church leaders and members are focassing the majority of their thoughts on the organizational, "how church is done" aspects rather then on Christ. The sole foundation of a church needs to be on Jesus Christ. If the emerging church is not founded on Jesus, but on the new / different ways of doing church, it will most likely fail eventually.

God bless.

I think so much focus has been placed on how church is done b/c of the renewed urgency in mission. Many of us are examining what it truly means to follow Christ in this time, and that includes all areas, including church. It takes a long time for something so large to change, and I think the EC is on track and has made progress in a short time.

See DP, at least one of the comments here bears out what I was talking about on the Ooze; the speed with which valid criticism of the EC becomes a reason to deny the problems within the IC.

From a larger perspective, the EC is the child of the IC, even if it is currently in reaction to it. The current issues within the EC are simply symptoms of the larger problems within the IC.

I've started reading EC books lately in order to make sense of what I am seeing and the one thing that strikes me more than anything is that the EC has its basis in science and philosophy more than Christ.

I am amazed at the sources of examples used for illustrating EC points. They almost never go back to the Bible, but to some lab test or sociological primer written by the fad scientist of the hour.

Does the Lord have nothing to say worth hearing?

I think this explains the problems you noted, DP. If the basis for the movement is not 100% the Lord Himself, then it is doomed to be a fashionable offshoot of dead evangelicalism. It will produce no fruit and become as decayed as the megachurches it despises.

If Jesus only did what He saw the Father doing, then why is the EC only doing what the latest worldly wisdom says? You can't base a church on Maslow and expect it to be anything usable. The lacks you speak of reflect a church mired in pop-psych and demographics studies as bad as anything in the megachurches the EC is fleeing from--it's just a different set of psychologists and poll numbers.

The main and the plain--that's where wisdom (and a future) resides.

"In Christ there is no emergent or institutional, no liberal or conservative, no progressive or fundamentalist, but Christ is all, and is in all." "One of you says, 'I follow Len Sweet,' another, 'I follow Rick Warren'; one says, 'I follow Brian McLaren," another, "I follow Chuck Colson.' Is Christ divided? Was Brian McLaren crucified for you? Were you baptized into the name of Rick Warren? Are you not acting like mere men? What, after all, is Brian McLaren? And what is Rick Warren? Only servants, through whom you came to believe--as the Lord assigned each to his task. The institutional church planted the seed, the emerging church watered it, but God made it grow. So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and each will be rewarded according to his own labor."

(Apologies to St. Paul. Cross-posted--commented?--from Anna's blog, www.deepsoil.com.)

Thanks to all of you who are posting! I'm really enjoying the insights. It's good to have Windblown and Groovy and Dan posting here as well.

Daniel -- your contextual adaptation is dead-on! All "expressions" of Christ's body do well to heed the wisdom of the
Apostle Paul's perspective and exhortation.

Good stuff.

Wow Daneil, what you posted from deep soil was great and I was totally blown away by it. This is something we deeply need to all remember. In the past, it was " I am seeker sensitive, or I am charismatic, or I am pretrib" or whatever.

Dan, I totally disagree with you, as usual. To say that the EC is based on the culture around it and is thus not as biblically healthy as the modern church is to miss the point. All theology must take place in some form of cultural context. Having a scriptural basis for everything, exegesis, apologetics and placing an emphasis on the intellect were all formed and influenced by the culture around them at the time they were started.

Benjy,

God transcends culture. You show me a man filled to the brim with the Holy Spirit and I'll show you a man who can walk into any culture and lead people to Christ.

Culture is a small, small component, but we have made it everything. As such, it becomes wedged in our eyes and we see only our view because it functions like rose-colored glasses. But there is a world that exists without the rose coloring.

Yes, the EC and the IC both have those glasses on. And for each side to claim only they have the right view is ludicrous. The only real view is the Jesus view, the one that sees what the Father is doing and does it.

If the EC follows the Jesus view, it will bury the IC and modernism. More power to the EC if this is indeed the case. I think it is presumptious, though, to think that the IC and the moderns possess(ed) none of that Jesus view.

Is that what you really think?

Dan, you wrote, "Culture is a small, small component..." I'd feel a lot more comfortable with that assertion if you could provide some evidence to back it up. I'm prepared to accept it on Biblical grounds alone, if any exist.

Daniel,

Pick any verse you want on the immutability of God, such as "I, the Lord, do not change...." Nothing changes more than culture.

Worshippers who worship God in Spirit and in Truth worship a God outside of culture. As we become more like Christ, we inevitably become more a citizen of heaven and less one of earth, becoming like the Lord in his transcendence of culture.

A look back at Babel shows that our various cultures are due to our own arrogance. But we Christians have a better city than Babel.

I have never understood the EC's fascination with culture. It is almost as if God cannot work apart from culture, as the EC sees it. But if Jesus' finished work is complete, why act is if it cannot be unless we mix in liberal doses of culture?

It's foolishness in the end.

Dan, what worries me is when believers espouse a "disconnect" with culture. I partially understand the view (cf. Neibuhr's "Christ and Culture"), but for me, it leaves precious little room for an incarnational theology.

Chris,

A lot of what we are discussing here about culture is based on differing views of what culture is. I view it as "the trappings that are passing away," but others might not see it that way.

My biggest beef is when we spend all our time programming to the culture and failing to ask just what the Father is doing. Too many people are looking at how to reach people or how to live out the Christian life and the first thing they are asking is "Just what of our culture do we incorporate?" That's the wrong question, but it seems to be at the forefront of EC thought, especially in those churches that are trying to hit the 18-35 demographic.

This begs the question of why? What is the Lord saying? I am amazed at the crazed reliance on demographic and sociological studies (the same studies the EC loathes when used by megachurches) in the emergent books I am reading. If the EC is just a sociological reconstruction of the Church, then I say forget it.

Where is the Lord?

I think what is going on here is just a simple misunderstanding. Culture and pop culture are 2 entirely different things. When I refer to culture, I am referring to it in social or anthropological way, i.e. clothing, language, etc. God can't work outside of culture b/c He created it. Just b/c something in culture is wrong, doesn't mean that culture itself is wrong or that God can't use it. Think of language or music.

"God transcends culture. You show me a man filled to the brim with the Holy Spirit and I'll show you a man who can walk into any culture and lead people to Christ." This doesn't have to be an either/or thought: either filled with the Holy Spirit or filled with culture, you can have both.

You also said that we worship a timeless God in spirit and in truth. But our worship takes place in a cultural context: that why our songs are in the English language.

I do, however, agree with your views about the IC and EC and the warnings.

Ok guys, let's be honest. Much of the problem begins at the top with leadership. I am amazed at how many people are starting new churches in order to be different, when the bottom line is - truth be known - most of them are in simple rebellion to the authority under which they were raised, or they leave a church not wanting to submit to the spiritual authority of a more seasoned pastor and start a new church to do things their way... a different way. I for one know MANY in pastoral leadership who think they can do better trying all the new stuff, complaining about the old stuff, rebelling against the pastor, then go out on their own and produce the less results. BTW, I am very much a forward thinking individual and am not against everything new and different. However, as the original post stated, where are the fruits? Wisdom is justified of her children, the fruit that is produced. I think it is incredible, if this is true, that divorce rate and immorality rate has risen in the church to be side by side with that of the world. But, it is not an incredible thing if the majority of people in church now a days are not even saved. Who was it that said, "when the Son of Man comes will He find faith on the earth?" We look at the rapture as being so overwhelming to the world with all these people missing, but is the reality of it that there will actually be very few who are missing? And could it be because we as leaders in the church are causing people to feel more religious and comfortable in our churches and never proclaiming true repentance of sin. Salvation is more than accepting the love of God. The Bible does not state to acknowledge God and accept His love and you will be saved. It does say that without repentance there is no remission of sin. Most people I know in churches, including some in my own, wouldn't truly repent for anything. If they won't do that as "Christians", did they ever do that to be saved at all? And where is the chastening hand of God on those who claim to be His? We as a staff at our church have begun praying that God will do whatever it takes to shake things up in our church, expose the wolves in sheeps clothing, expose those who are not saved, break those who are and have become contented Christians, and show us what it truly means for God to be present and truly change lives. Well,God did things in ways we didn't expect, and He shook things that we never thought about, and it's been rough. But, we have had about 20 people saved in less than a month and were witness to the radical change in their lives. Some were even witness those crying out to God in repentance of their sin. We didn't lead them in a sinner's prayer (is that Biblical?), we simply told them that they needed to cry out to God themselves in repentance and beg Him for mercy. And WOW, what happened when they did was unlike anything that we have seen in our lifetime. The flood of tears that came pouring out when in their own words, not a pre-fab prayer, they cried out to God. BTW, I failed to mention that these were individuals that thought they were already saved. But when they saw in scripture what a saved person really looks like compared to their own life, the Holy Spirit began to work. That's what its about folks! Our staff will never look at leading someone to Christ the same again. If the Holy Spirit does not draw them (is that Biblical?), our new fangled way of doing things, our palatable salvation message and our unwillingness to allow the cross to be the stumbling block it was meant to be will not change anybody. It may cause them to feel good and religious, but are they really saved?

Back to the original point...It's us. Are we in the ministry for the right reason. Did God place us where we are or did we place ourselves in order to do things are way and get enough people to collect a paycheck? Do we really know what it's like to follow the Holy Spirit? Does our Christianity really work for us? Are we certain that we're even saved? What does it really mean to live by grace? Are we just good ole boys trying to do good works in our community? Have we ever seen God truly move in a great and mighty, life-changing, sin convicting way? Why? "Ask and it shall be given, seek and you will find, knock and it will be opened." "I give you the keys to the kingdom of heaven; whatever you lose on earth shall be loosed in heaven, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven." "It is my will that none should perish but that all come to repentance." God is ready, willing and able. So it must be us.

What is fruit? From my study of the New Testament, it isn't a feeling that comes over us if the worship music is just right, or if the new emerging church plant in our town is growing like crazy. So if we are going to talk fruit, let's evaluate patience, forgiveness, love, etc. There is an emerging church about 30 mins. away that is growing huge like a megachurch, but I don't know how much fruit they have.

My time and work with the emerging church we started hasn't resulted in a huge amount of people being involved with it. But we have baptized people that a few months earlier wanted nothing to do with christianity. The guy with the most piercings and tattoos in our commmunity who is judged everywhere he goes, feels more comfortable around us than anywhere else. We are beginning to get involved with taking care of the poor in our community.

I am not critizing the IC all the time, we wouldn't be able to do what we are if we were not partnered with one. But let's not be so quick to write off this whole movement just b/c its trendy.

email for above site.

http://christiandivorce.1hwy.com/index.html

This online study may be of interest to your visitors.

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The New Covenant made man free. It did not set up earthly authority. Christians do not need to fear people who obey Christ when they don't do things exactly as has been done in the recent past. The early church was abundantly free and the letters of Paul reveal that fact.

Nice site

Interesting reading. Could you clarify something for me? I had described Reggie Mcneal's "The Present Future" to a friend and then described McNeal as a person in the emerging church conversation. He asked me where I arrived at this conclusion. I explained that by his writings he pretty much tells the reader this. Am I wrong in my description?
thanks

Tom, if it were me, I'd probably describe Reggie McNeal as "a friend of the emerging church." I believe God has positioned him strategically, enabling him to engage leaders of the institutional church who are open to their past mistakes, current liabilities, and are open to the winds of change.

The epistemology and "doctrines" of the emerging church movement make it heretical in many significant ways. See my article at http://www.apologeticsindex.org/290-emerging-church

David.

I don't know who appointed you the self proclaimed prophet against the Emerging Church, but the tone of your website makes me think Jesus would say the same thing to you He said to John:

"And John answered and said, Master, we saw one casting out demons in Your name. And we prevented him, because he does not follow us.

And Jesus said to him, Do not prevent him, for he who is not against us is for us." (Luke 9:49,50)

God's Peace

Seraphim

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