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May 20, 2004


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Maybe we should all start wearing clergy collars?

but if we all wore them, they'd be just like wwjd bracelets, or fish on our cars. :-)

Chris, you just need to take the plunge and go get one. You're not going to be satisfied until you do. So in the spirit of my prediction that Cleave would become a Mac addict (made January 13, 2004 and fulfilled April 26, 2004), I predict that you will eventually sport the collar.

I agree with Daniel - just go for it! It's sure to be an informative experience. Also if you try it and it doesn't work out, you can always go back to wearing your civvies.

I think it would definately be a good idea for you. Its not a legalistic thing, not everyone has to do it. Rod had a good point, but I don't see a huge amount of people sporting them soon. Chris, do you think certain types or ages of people would respond to this more than others, besides the unchurched vs. churched angle?

Thanks for prophesying over me, Daniel! :D

If it's fulfilled, I'll be sure to post some photo documentation!

I read a great article at last week entitled, "Younger pastors ask: Is preaching out of touch?" (You can readi it here...and you really should!) In it, Doug Pagitt makes a comment that has been smouldering inside me since I read it. I'll include some of the article surrounding it for context:

For Pagitt, it is unhealthy - even abusive - to suggest that only a few, privileged individuals can speak for God. "Why do I get to speak for 30 minutes and you don't?" . . . To treat the sermon as an oratorical performance delivered by a paid and trained professional who claims to speak for God sets up an artificial power imbalance within the congregation, says Pagitt, a Baptist by training. It's hard for a congregation to practice the priesthood of all believers when the preaching perpetuates an image of the pastor as somehow more authoritative or spiritual than his or her listeners.

So I wonder...does wearing a collar (or any other vestiments) perpetuate the same image? I think it plainly the question becomes, "Is it worth it?"

Wow, Chris...we posted at the same time. An omen, I think, don't you? =)

"do you think certain types or ages of people would respond to this more than others, besides the unchurched vs. churched angle?"

That's a good question, Benjy.
I don't think general social categorizations apply here (e.g. age, gender, race, economic status). I don't even think that the paradigmatic factor of modernity v. postmodernity applies.

My "hunch" is that anyone could theorhetically qualify as an interested/approaching party to a person wearing a clerical collar UNLESS certain "disqualifiers" were present -- such as: 1) personally wounded by/disenchanted with church or having a close friend that experienced the same.
2) familial disinterest or distruct in organized religion.
3) absense of any pressing "issue" or "need" in one's life.

How about you, Benjy? Do you have any possible answers to your question?

Daniel (the Prophet) --

Yes, I've read that article in

Pagitt always puts forth some excellent throught-provoking ideas.

Part of the problem is that we've set up a false dichotomy between the "lay-clergy" distinction and the ministry of all believers. Frankly, I see both as coexisting in the New Testament -- it's one more example of the "tensions" within our faith. The body is designed to be egalitarian, yet it also should recognize and support those who are "part of them" and yet "over them" in the Lord. This is paradoxical. This is enigmatic. This is biblical.

It may be that Doug's baptist orientation is in part what has spawned his observation of the "power-weilding" characteristic of much of today's pulpiteering. Administrative-pastors, worship-pastors, youth-pastors, counseling-pastors, and the like can become just as "power-abusive" as the stereotypical preaching-pastor. In fact, as far as THAT goes --- many, many "lay" people in typical small (and unhealthy) congregations are weilding power in VERY destructive ways every day (through family and board coalitions and other manipulative methods). The answer is not to omit teaching from the life and worship of communities of faith. Leaders need to help transition their congregations away from the overly bibliocentric models of church life that have dominated evangelicalism for the past 250 years. When the diversity of charismata within the body is recognized, cultivated, expressed, and appreciated by those who lead -- "abuse of power" is a mute point. The best leaders are servant leaders -- they're not in the ministry for themselves, they're in the ministry for others and for the sake of Christ.

So, my response to Doug would be -- the problem is not an inherant flaw in the leadership role, it's in the one occupying that leadership role.

I think I remember parts of the New Testament reminding us to serve and to submit to each other. The authority in the NT seemed to flow out of the contexts of healthy relationships. Within their community, they served and submitted to each other.

Back to Daniel's question, what if more lay people were given encouragement to also wear collars? Surely we don't believe that only "certain leaders" can pray and counsel with those in need.

testing comments Chris - hope it will work...

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